Edison Studio Team: Welcome back! It looks like you're close to begin writing your essay. But before you do, you might want to do some revising of your T/Q/R. Compare the T/Q/R, as it is right now, with the radial web. Does the information in the web help you to support/prove your claims in the T/Q/R? If it does not, you might need to revise the T/Q/R. In actual historical research, you would be able to find additional source documents; unfortunately in your situation, the only thing that can be revised in the short-tern is the T/Q/R. You might also want to begin thinking about how you want to divide up the tasks of writing and editing the essay.
Chuck
In 1908, Edison started the Motion Picture Patents Company, which was a conglomerate of nine major film studios (commonly known as the Edison Trust). Thomas Edison was the first honorary fellow of the Acoustical Society of America, which was founded in 1929. [1]
Biograph and Edison to join their licensee organizations into the Motion Picture Patents Company on December 18, 1908. This organization, which became known as "the Trust," established interlocking agreements between the film exchanges, theaters, and the Eastman Kodak Company, which amounted to a monopoly on the American film market. [2]
Chuck: Why do you think this information will be useful? What questions came to mind as you read the paragraph? Write these questions down as you read the material. This way, you can look for an asnwer as you continue to read. If you don't find an answer as you read, the question could be used as the beginning of a research string.
While reading that I thought about monopolies, but with film companies. It also brings back to the beginining when I found out some stuff on theaters. I also asked why did it became a patent? Does he want to patent his Kenetoscopes? Or something else?
Its first production facility, Edison's Black Maria studios in West Orange, New Jersey, was built in the winter of 1892–93. The second facility, a glass-enclosed rooftop studio built at 41 East 21st Street in Manhattan's entertainment district, opened in 1901. In 1907, Edison had new facilities built on Decatur Avenue and Oliver Place in The Bronx, New York. [3]
Chuck: Again, why do you think this information is important? What does it tell you about the develop of the Edison Studio? Why move from West Orange, NJ to Manhattan and then to the Bronx? How might making movies change with a move from the confines of Manhattan to the open spaces of the Bronx? It might be helpful to watch the short film, "Rescued from an Eagle's Nest." It's the first link (YouTube) on the Edison Film Studio documents page. How many of the scenes were shot outside? How might the directors at the studio on Decatur Avenue benefit from the proximity of Van Cortlandt
Park?
Based on page 383-385
Edision moved from NJ to NY because "Edision's excusive recognize that they need a new studio soon after fiction narrative film became the company's dominant film production." Basically they wanted to move to NY, they wanted to have a location in Manhatten but land was to much, so they opened a studio in the Bronx. Based on the youtube video; Who was D.W Griffith?
What relation does he have with the Edison's Studio? They produced his plays?
Most shot in that video was shot outside, and I noticed there were many nature factor of huge trees and such, and I'm guessing it must be Van Cortlant Park that showing its beneficial towards the Edision;s Studio film making.
Chuck: Remember to use the Topic/Main Idea/Important Detail format I showed you in class. By using this format you can see how the author uses data to support his claims (his thesis statement). You might think about using bullet points to separate information so that it can be used more easily.
Here's an exmaple of a template you might want to use:
Topic: Edison Film Studio (Decatur Avenue)
Main Idea: XXXXXXXXXXXX (You have to figure this out for yourself.)
Important Details:
XXXXXXXXX (page 364)
YYYYYYYYYY (page 365)
ZZZZZZZZZZZ (page 365)
While you want to organize the data so that you do not need to look back again at the text, it's always helpful to include the page number. It may come in handy if you want to go back and find a quotation.
Remember to write out any questions that might come to mind as you read through the material.
Before Nick 383 - 393
The edison studio has many rooms
It has a props room, toys
It has a huge water source for water scenes
They have many vintage bathtubs for movies
Their building was build in concrete, which ppl think is a good idea
The building itself is 100x60
The 'Raven's nest' was one of its production
It was 35 feet high
Wages for players (actors?) where about 5-65 dollars
Many film plot have to do wit D.W Griffith
The Garden took place in Coney Island * Why did they make the movie all the way down there while their studio is in the Bronx
'Rescue from the Raven;s Nest' I saw that on youtube, but it was a plain movie and it seem stupid, why was it famous?
Dawley and Porter worked together for a year.
Dawley gave the wages for the workers.
Dawley was a stage director and other big jobs.
Left Kinetograph Department and Porter took over a lot of the company.
Many famous movies like "Jake the Kisser" were made.
What I read talked about this new studio building that caught thee attention of many people back then. the roof was made of glass and it was three stories high. In the building were so many things that not the ordinary film studio had back then. There was a chemical laborotory, dressing roms containing many things, and even a library shelved with many books. then it just goes on and on about the new building
Before Nick 391-393
Porter used the studio to create western locale a race for millions in august- september 1907.
During this play a car was driven on the stage .
Now the studio had become a plaything as the associates and porter continued to explore on it .
Other plays that were created in edison studio were rescued from an eagle's nest, the gay shoe clerk, the trainer's daughter, stage struck, the rivals, tale the autumn leaves told, the kleptomaniac, rex the heroine, a race for millions, fireside reminiscences, cupids pranks, nellie the pretty typewriter, jack the kisser, white caps and the cowboy and the schoolarm.
Film Watching:
Certain films took over a minute to do, while others were like 30 seconds.
These films are one scene.
Music is not original.
Used a kinetoscope to film it.
Films don’t have a plot.
Fake animals, costumes, used water pictures, more innovative
Background is a drawing.
Film of the Great Train Robbery Shows
Old Edison Studio was grinding out films for television.
The Studio was very far for actors to travel, which brought up complaints for actors.
However, the studio was closer to the Bronx, Van Cortlandt Park.
Question: Why are these places important for a Studio to be located near?
Hundreds of movies were made.
Question: If many films were made, how come the building kept jumping from company to company? Wouldn't people want to keep it?
Old Edison Studio known as the birthplace of color cartoon filming.
Terrytoons one of the famous films made. A Second of the film counted for 16 frames of color.
Hey Edison Studio Team! First, super job on the graphics!! Who did it? How did you do it? You might want to think about doing something along these lines when you get down to writing the final essay. Where did you get the pictures? Of more immediate importance though . . . Which of the above T/Q/Rs are you going with? If you are going to select the first T/Q/R, you will need to come up with a criteria with which to judge how great the films were. In the Rationale section, you need to be a bit more specific. In waht ways did the studio impact the film industry? You need to do a bit of revising and clarifying with the second T/Q/R. What do you mean by greater effectiveness? I get the impression that this second T/Q/R came out of our conversation last Saturday. If that is so, I what you are trying to say is that the Edison studio of Decatur Avenue was constructed to be a state-of-the-art facility, far surpassing the capabilities of Edison's previous studios. If this is so, then what would your Rationale statement be? What might this evolution of the Edison studios say about the statement of the film industry in the United States in the first two decades of the twentieth century? I would not pursue the third T/Q/R. Porter made films in studios other than the one here in the Bronx. You will run into trouble finding information on Porter and his films. Keep plowing away! Chuck
Edison Studio Features*
WEST ORANGE EDISON STUDIO
Black Maria was a tar paper-covered dark studio, had a retractable roof.
Had scenes good for magic shows, plays, boxing matches, cockfights, passing trains, and police and fireman work.
Had a recording studio.
Had a research and development laboratory.
MANHATTAN EDISON STUDIO
Had 100 foot sound stages.
14 cutting rooms
20 dressing rooms.
Carpenter Shops, and set storage facilities.
BRONX EDISON STUDIO
Old Studio had 100 by 75 foot sound stages.
Had a dressing room, technical facilities, and library.
Mob Rooms, Projection rooms,
Had a water room used for water scenes. Included a tank filled with water.
The Edison studio has many rooms
It has a props room, toys
It has a huge water source for water scenes, huge tank below.
They have many vintage bathtubs for movies.
Where did Edison have his previous studio(s)?
His previous Studio was located in West Orange, New Jersey.
The second studio, which was a glass studio on a terrace at 41 East 21st Street in the entertainment hub of Manhattan, was established in 1901.
Why did he move his studio to the Bronx?
Edison moved from NJ to NY because Edison exclusive recognized that they needed a new studio soon after the fiction narrative film became the company's dominant production.
What were the physical characteristics of the Edison Studio on Decatur Avenue?
It located near Van Cortlandt Park, where there was much land.
How did it differ from the previous Studio?
It has more features like the chemical lab, water tank, and large libraries with many books shelved.
Who was Edwin S. Porter?
Porter was like the director, he was the projectionist, filmmaker and he also came up with new ideas for his films such as the flying tricks and stuff.
Why was he such an important member of the Edison Studio team?
He created production of the films, he was the projector, filmmaker and the creator of tricks such as flying in Edison's movies.
Topic-We are studying the old edison studio in the Bronx
Question - Because we want to prove how great the films created here was
Rationale - In order to understand how it impacted the film industry
- - - - - - - - - -
REVISED***
Topic - We are studying the old Edison Studio in the bronx.
- We are studying about the third Edison Film Studio in the Bronx.
Question - Because we want to prove that there was a greater effectiveness of films created in the Bronx
- Because we want to prove that the Edison's Studio in the Bronx was the most fit to create narrative films.
Rationale - In order to understand why the Edison Studio was moved to the Bronx
- In order to understand how the surroundings and features of the new studio allow films to keep up with audience need for narrative films.
The Studio moved to the Bronx
What in the bronx allow it to make those films - Radial Chart.
- - - - - - - - - -
Topic - We are studying about Porter films
Question - Because we want to prove why his films attracted many viewers
Rationale - In order to understand why he had a great impact on fiction films created after his works.
Edison Studio Team: Welcome back! It looks like you're close to begin writing your essay. But before you do, you might want to do some revising of your T/Q/R. Compare the T/Q/R, as it is right now, with the radial web. Does the information in the web help you to support/prove your claims in the T/Q/R? If it does not, you might need to revise the T/Q/R. In actual historical research, you would be able to find additional source documents; unfortunately in your situation, the only thing that can be revised in the short-tern is the T/Q/R. You might also want to begin thinking about how you want to divide up the tasks of writing and editing the essay.
Chuck
In 1908, Edison started the Motion Picture Patents Company, which was a conglomerate of nine major film studios (commonly known as the Edison Trust). Thomas Edison was the first honorary fellow of the Acoustical Society of America, which was founded in 1929. [1]
Biograph and Edison to join their licensee organizations into the Motion Picture Patents Company on December 18, 1908. This organization, which became known as "the Trust," established interlocking agreements between the film exchanges, theaters, and the Eastman Kodak Company, which amounted to a monopoly on the American film market. [2]
Chuck: Why do you think this information will be useful? What questions came to mind as you read the paragraph? Write these questions down as you read the material. This way, you can look for an asnwer as you continue to read. If you don't find an answer as you read, the question could be used as the beginning of a research string.
While reading that I thought about monopolies, but with film companies. It also brings back to the beginining when I found out some stuff on theaters. I also asked why did it became a patent? Does he want to patent his Kenetoscopes? Or something else?
Its first production facility, Edison's Black Maria studios in West Orange, New Jersey, was built in the winter of 1892–93. The second facility, a glass-enclosed rooftop studio built at 41 East 21st Street in Manhattan's entertainment district, opened in 1901. In 1907, Edison had new facilities built on Decatur Avenue and Oliver Place in The Bronx, New York. [3]
Chuck: Again, why do you think this information is important? What does it tell you about the develop of the Edison Studio? Why move from West Orange, NJ to Manhattan and then to the Bronx? How might making movies change with a move from the confines of Manhattan to the open spaces of the Bronx? It might be helpful to watch the short film, "Rescued from an Eagle's Nest." It's the first link (YouTube) on the Edison Film Studio documents page. How many of the scenes were shot outside? How might the directors at the studio on Decatur Avenue benefit from the proximity of Van Cortlandt
Park?
Based on page 383-385
Edision moved from NJ to NY because "Edision's excusive recognize that they need a new studio soon after fiction narrative film became the company's dominant film production." Basically they wanted to move to NY, they wanted to have a location in Manhatten but land was to much, so they opened a studio in the Bronx. Based on the youtube video; Who was D.W Griffith?
What relation does he have with the Edison's Studio? They produced his plays?
Most shot in that video was shot outside, and I noticed there were many nature factor of huge trees and such, and I'm guessing it must be Van Cortlant Park that showing its beneficial towards the Edision;s Studio film making.
FOOTNOTES
[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Edison#Media_inventions
[2]http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_Edison_Motion_Pictures4.htm
[3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Studios
Chuck: Remember to use the Topic/Main Idea/Important Detail format I showed you in class. By using this format you can see how the author uses data to support his claims (his thesis statement). You might think about using bullet points to separate information so that it can be used more easily.
Here's an exmaple of a template you might want to use:
Topic: Edison Film Studio (Decatur Avenue)
Main Idea: XXXXXXXXXXXX (You have to figure this out for yourself.)
Important Details:
While you want to organize the data so that you do not need to look back again at the text, it's always helpful to include the page number. It may come in handy if you want to go back and find a quotation.
Remember to write out any questions that might come to mind as you read through the material.
Before Nick 383 - 393
- The edison studio has many rooms
- It has a props room, toys
- It has a huge water source for water scenes
- They have many vintage bathtubs for movies
- Their building was build in concrete, which ppl think is a good idea
- The building itself is 100x60
- The 'Raven's nest' was one of its production
- It was 35 feet high
- Wages for players (actors?) where about 5-65 dollars
- Many film plot have to do wit D.W Griffith
- The Garden took place in Coney Island * Why did they make the movie all the way down there while their studio is in the Bronx
- 'Rescue from the Raven;s Nest' I saw that on youtube, but it was a plain movie and it seem stupid, why was it famous?
- Dawley and Porter worked together for a year.
- Dawley gave the wages for the workers.
- Dawley was a stage director and other big jobs.
- Left Kinetograph Department and Porter took over a lot of the company.
- Many famous movies like "Jake the Kisser" were made.
- What I read talked about this new studio building that caught thee attention of many people back then. the roof was made of glass and it was three stories high. In the building were so many things that not the ordinary film studio had back then. There was a chemical laborotory, dressing roms containing many things, and even a library shelved with many books. then it just goes on and on about the new building
Before Nick 391-393Film Watching:
Old Edison Studio was grinding out films for television.
The Studio was very far for actors to travel, which brought up complaints for actors.
However, the studio was closer to the Bronx, Van Cortlandt Park.
Question: Why are these places important for a Studio to be located near?
Hundreds of movies were made.
Question: If many films were made, how come the building kept jumping from company to company? Wouldn't people want to keep it?
Old Edison Studio known as the birthplace of color cartoon filming.
Terrytoons one of the famous films made. A Second of the film counted for 16 frames of color.
Hey Edison Studio Team! First, super job on the graphics!! Who did it? How did you do it? You might want to think about doing something along these lines when you get down to writing the final essay. Where did you get the pictures? Of more immediate importance though . . . Which of the above T/Q/Rs are you going with? If you are going to select the first T/Q/R, you will need to come up with a criteria with which to judge how great the films were. In the Rationale section, you need to be a bit more specific. In waht ways did the studio impact the film industry? You need to do a bit of revising and clarifying with the second T/Q/R. What do you mean by greater effectiveness? I get the impression that this second T/Q/R came out of our conversation last Saturday. If that is so, I what you are trying to say is that the Edison studio of Decatur Avenue was constructed to be a state-of-the-art facility, far surpassing the capabilities of Edison's previous studios. If this is so, then what would your Rationale statement be? What might this evolution of the Edison studios say about the statement of the film industry in the United States in the first two decades of the twentieth century? I would not pursue the third T/Q/R. Porter made films in studios other than the one here in the Bronx. You will run into trouble finding information on Porter and his films. Keep plowing away! Chuck
Edison Studio Features*
WEST ORANGE EDISON STUDIO
MANHATTAN EDISON STUDIO
BRONX EDISON STUDIO
- Where did Edison have his previous studio(s)?
His previous Studio was located in West Orange, New Jersey.The second studio, which was a glass studio on a terrace at 41 East 21st Street in the entertainment hub of Manhattan, was established in 1901.
- Why did he move his studio to the Bronx?
Edison moved from NJ to NY because Edison exclusive recognized that they needed a new studio soon after the fiction narrative film became the company's dominant production.- What were the physical characteristics of the Edison Studio on Decatur Avenue?
It located near Van Cortlandt Park, where there was much land.- How did it differ from the previous Studio?
It has more features like the chemical lab, water tank, and large libraries with many books shelved.- Who was Edwin S. Porter?
Porter was like the director, he was the projectionist, filmmaker and he also came up with new ideas for his films such as the flying tricks and stuff.- Why was he such an important member of the Edison Studio team?
He created production of the films, he was the projector, filmmaker and the creator of tricks such as flying in Edison's movies.Topic-We are studying the old edison studio in the Bronx
Question - Because we want to prove how great the films created here was
Rationale - In order to understand how it impacted the film industry
- - - - - - - - - -
REVISED***
Topic - We are studying the old Edison Studio in the bronx.
- We are studying about the third Edison Film Studio in the Bronx.
Question - Because we want to prove that there was a greater effectiveness of films created in the Bronx
- Because we want to prove that the Edison's Studio in the Bronx was the most fit to create narrative films.
Rationale - In order to understand why the Edison Studio was moved to the Bronx
- In order to understand how the surroundings and features of the new studio allow films to keep up with audience need for narrative films.
- The Studio moved to the Bronx
- What in the bronx allow it to make those films - Radial Chart.
- - - - - - - - - -Topic - We are studying about Porter films
Question - Because we want to prove why his films attracted many viewers
Rationale - In order to understand why he had a great impact on fiction films created after his works.
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